Dan5k74

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is on both paths (aiden yes / no)
so i guess you can choose whether to go to sam or cathy
if he goes to sam, will liam go to ca cathy alone?
I was thinking that the same scenario from the evening of the Day 16 (when Liam stayed to play at the casino and Sophia went dancing with Ellie and Patricia) could be replayed, but it would seem a bit odd to me that, Liam (for no valid reason, such as gambling) would stay alone at Cathy and Andy's house.
But then there's that reference to calling a taxi which doesn't seem to be accidental...
 
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I have read the thread since the release of version 0.130.

What did we talk about? Problems of legality, of the presence or not of L&P, of what is bad or not bad. Everyone seems to forget that what they say is based on HIS tastes! I don't blame anyone, I don't judge anyone.
But just say thank you L&P for the quality of this update. The educational work, both in the scene with the children and in Xavier's workshop, is particularly well done. A tribute to teachers, whatever their field.
Thanks for the work on the renders. The light, the details of the paintings made by Xavier's teenagers, the historical details, everything indicates a desire to build a lesson (and it does not matter if "artists of art historians" are discussing on a brushstroke or a date).

Just say thank you ... It's that easy, even though I'm an invisible voice among messages ... :oops:
The best post all day, I have to say. Atleast Someone is understanding of the effort and not judging people and not telling L&P what he should include in his game and what he should delete.
I have never see any developer on any thread be told how to go about his story and be as criticised as L&P is over even the smallest of mistakes.

Ofcourse not every scene can be equally well written. And it can't satisfy everyone's parameters of what is good. Even professional writers can't nail every scene they make.
 

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I'd like some more clarification on the events of the evening of the next PD, specifically the invitation to make a toast at the new house Cathy and Andy rented downtown:
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Is it only featured in Aiden's route? How does it fit in with Sam's event? Will it happen first or will it be an alternative event to the show? Will it only be accepted by Liam? Will it be a cause for an argument with Sophia?
Any updates, or just your thoughts, on this would be appreciated. Thank you
Good wife route?
 

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Hey Guys, any Japanese around here. What means?
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Just that one means "poison" it's pronounced "Doku" どくThe funny thing is that it's formed by two components.
That means master and...
That means...Mother!!! hehehe.

There's this variation: する "Dokusuru" which means: "to be a bad influence (on something); to corrupt; to poison"
There's also this variation: 目の めのどく "NenoDuku" which means: tempting thing; temptation; something that shouldn't be seen.

I guess L&P is paying way too much attention to details. Which is good!!. :sneaky:(y)(y)
 

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I was thinking that the same scenario from the evening of the Day 16 (when Liam stayed to play at the casino and Sophia went dancing with Ellie and Patricia) could be replayed, but it would seem a bit odd to me that, Liam (for no valid reason, such as gambling) would stay alone at Cathy and Andy's house.
But then there's that reference to calling a taxi which doesn't seem to be accidental...
I don't think they will split like for the casino event, they both received the invitation.

On the other hand, there **could** be (as in "it's not impossible that") a different content in the event whether Sophia left for the 3rd task or not.
If Sophia left, there was something going on between Liam and Cathy that L&P took care of telling us.
As I said some posts ago, this **could** be the a sort of a early "warning" to basically say "go on with Aiden's tasks and something can happen between Cathy and Liam", like going down the FW route bad things will happen to the marriage. I just had that sort of feeling while playing.

I don't know what the event will be about, probably they will ask them to be the best man(woman) at the wedding and organize the bachelor(ette) party.
I also posit that this could be (at least in the GW route, so no Aiden's task) set the wheels in motion for the swinger event later on. Again not that anything will happen or there will be an explicit talk about that, but it will serve for preparing future events.
 
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I don't think they will split like for the casino event, they both received the invitation.

On the other hand, there **could** be (as in "it's not impossible that") a different content in the event whether Sophia left for the 3rd task or not.
If Sophia left, there was something going on between Liam and Cathy that L&P take care of telling us.
As I said some posts ago, this **could** be the a sort of a early "warning" to basically say "go on with Aiden's tasks and something can happen between Cathy and Liam", like going down the FW route bad things will happen to the marriage.

I don't know what the event will be about, probably they will ask them to be the best man(woman) at the wedding and organize the bachelor(ette) party.
I also posit that this could be (at least in the GW route, so no Aiden's task) set the wheels in motion for the swinger event later on. Again not that anything will happen or there will be an explicit talk about that, but it will serve for preparing future events.
You will get the answers to a lot of questions on that night
 

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I don't think they will split like for the casino event, they both received the invitation.

On the other hand, there **could** be (as in "it's not impossible that") a different content in the event whether Sophia left for the 3rd task or not.
If Sophia left, there was something going on between Liam and Cathy that L&P took care of telling us.
As I said some posts ago, this **could** be the a sort of a early "warning" to basically say "go on with Aiden's tasks and something can happen between Cathy and Liam", like going down the FW route bad things will happen to the marriage.

I don't know what the event will be about, probably they will ask them to be the best man(woman) at the wedding and organize the bachelor(ette) party.
I also posit that this could be (at least in the GW route, so no Aiden's task) set the wheels in motion for the swinger event later on. Again not that anything will happen or there will be an explicit talk about that, but it will serve for preparing future events.
I agree with you, and I think there was more than just a toast on those much-missed couples' nights back in their school days...
Maybe this time even Liam could lose control and somehow follow up on that peek at Cathy while trying on her wedding dress.
 
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n fact, the author does just that. He destroys the novel with his own hands, turning it into a banal porn game. Its main difference will be in very slow updates and very high quality renders.
Many people say about the slow development of the plot are categorically mistaken. The whole impression is blurred by very rare updates. If you look at it from the very beginning, Sophia's self-corruption goes by leaps and bounds. Just fast. Estimate the contents of 0.100, 0.115, and 0.130. How many days these updates cover and how many dirty points Sofia gets during this period.
 
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Yep. Not only does she have Nathalie's tattoo, but it even now says it's Nathalie waiting at the front steps at the end of the Sophia/Dylan event. And even if you don't do the event, Sophia gets a phone call saying Nathalie is waiting at the front door.
Wtf? If thats Amber with Nat's tattoo, what does that mean? Is her husband in on this as well?

I think L&P needs to update his game and fix this.
 

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So the mods took down the whole debate all together. Well actually that was for the best. Debating over the legality of a scene in the game and that it is potentially promoting crimes is stupid to begin with.
A simple choice just like the way KillJoys did. He didn't like, he deleted the saves for it and moved on. And does not care if you like it or not. Be like him.

Also since now people have already decided whether they want to play this route or not, the next time shouldn't be an outrage. Since people who don't like it have already walked out of it.

Also I do feel like I should apologize to the members of this thread. Because surely it must have be a mood spoiler reading about crimes of the real world on a forum like this. I would have been irritated If every other post was like that. So sincere apologies from my side for the spam.
Thanks - and like KillJoys I have also deleted those saves and moved on.
 
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Frankly I thought people overreacted about the update yesterday, but after I played it myself, you all were right. This was by far the worst update. It was filled with cliches (“she is my girlfriend...”), boring scenes and more dicks than pussy. 2 left breasts, that was it, can you believe that?

This felt like a first v0.1 edition of a new game.
Yes very true... It showed...old man's...dicks...kids dick.. Aiden s dick....and no pussy....only Sophia's tit..and just left.... Can anyone tell...when will DLS update come which is shown after end of 0.115 version
 

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I hesitate to comment as more often than not my contributions on the main thread are deleted. In spite of this I will proceed with temerity.
I believe that there is a second purpose to meeting Andy and Cathy later in the evening, and I believe it is after the Sam performance event. Due to the age of the members in Sam's band it is quite likely that there could be an early performance time for them which would be followed by a more mature band to finish the evening's entertainment. This is how I envision this upcoming event as anticipatory entertainment:
Sophia, Patricia and Ellie arrive at the bar and experience a higher quality band than they expected from first-time performers. The music is retro which lights up Sophia's interest, as well as other patrons of the bar. There may be an opportunity for women (lubricated by inebriation) to flash the good-looking young men playing the inspiring music (would Sophia join the crowd?) After the performance Sam offers an under-the-influence Sophia a ride home in his new 68' Pontiac Firebird. They park on the way home and there is kissing and fondling which Sophia gets lost in (having a potential filthy of well over 110). Getting lost in the moment fits the pattern established in Day 9 at the club with Tyler and Day 11 with Zac. Each time there is an interruption that snaps Sophia back into reality. The interruption this time would be a reminder call from Liam to meet him at Andy and Cathy's, or noticing the time on Sam's dash clock.
This would also be a good lead-in for the afternoon event with Sam the next day.
This among other potential options would be fun scenarios to watch.
 

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Ok. This will be a sort of first impression of the update. This might be a long one so you may want to skip ahead if you don’t want to read long blocks of text.

-Let’s get the elephant out of the room with the 2nd side job first.
I stopped playing the event when she grab the second dick (for apparently no reasonable reason but more on that later).
Not because it I was shocked or anything like that (let’s just say I have read some story with much more fucked up content... so nothing impress me that much anymore).
What’s more important to me in a story is the context, the tone, pacing,etc.

Here it felt like I was reading one of the fanfic in the fan art section and in a weird may my brain was telling me to stop waisting time and play Awam since the update was finally out...

So I played other events and then came back to the 2nd side job with a new mindset :
-I will play it exactly I felt it. A fanfic.
Not really connected to the rest of the game and where Sophia would do things she would never do at this point (at least not that far).

So with that out of the way... The event in itself...
The kids looks weird. I have no idea what age they could be because they almost don’t look human.Like kids with adult features.

As for Sophia in the event the event, the moment she said something like :“ah... fuck it. I’ll just do it.”, almost felt like L&p was saying the same thing while doing the scene.
And as for the kids... either they are badly written or poorly portrayed, or they’re not as innocent as they appear to be.

-The moment Sophia bring that she may go to jail for having them undress in front of her, one of them tell her that they do it from their own volition so it’s not a problem.( How could he know something like that wouldn’t be a problem...in the fictional world of Awam ?)

-The stick “magically” disappear so now she has to touch them directly...

-The “can you do it on me too...?”. There’s not really a reason for the kids to not understand what Sophia is telling them with just one model.

-And lastly this are supposed to be super smart kids with college level understanding but they can’t comprehend when Sophia tell them how to masturbate, or the drawing or all the stupid things with the discussion regarding breast ?

Either L&p is really inconsistent in his portrayal of the kids or they are not so innocent (maybe not all of thebut at least the one who looks older)

-Moving on to the first side job.
After 3or 4 events where literally nothing happens here we go at last...well not really.
This should have been their first or second event instead of being there for nothing for so long.
Other than that it was the most boring event because the old guys are just that : old guys.
In resume, this storyline boils down to:
-If you’re into the old guy/milf fantasy, you might enjoy the event
-If you don’t like that kink, you won’t (obviously)
-And if you’re like me and don’t give shit either way, this was a mostly bland event with the most bland old guys seen in every game with old dudes .

-Next the Sophia/Dylan event .
Nothing different from Dylan. Talking about her boobs, ass, legs or how can he see more of her body. And he grab her ass . Twice. Even when she say no.
Same good old Dylan.
As for Sophia she’s far more accepting of Dylan behavior, even after he grabbed her. So, there some sort of “progress” in that area.
As for the catalyst for changing Sophia view of Dylan, some might have preferred a less “cliche” way of portraying the change (Dylan being a “hero” by defeating a “bad guy”).
For me it doesn’t change anything, because as I have previously stated,
I don’t believe one moment in Dylan as a character or the Sophia/Dylan relationship. So it’s not one or two more trope that will change my view.
(Weirdly enough maybe because the 2nd side job was so out there, I was strangely ok with the Sophia/Dylan event)

My only gripe was how the “3rd side job” was introduced.
It was so lazy. I was like :“Huh. Wait what..?”
3 or 4 lines of dialogue from a guy that’s supposed to be Dylan (I imagine it was him since his name was portrayed on the dialogue box)...
It was as subtle as if we add a black screen and suddenly L&p asked us :
-Are you into the homeless/middle class milf fantasy? Yes/No ?

-I didn’t play the Aiden event enough (I admit I started pressing the skip button after the 3rd or 4th block of text from Xavier all the way to the end).
So... the renders seems nice, I guess.
I’ll come back to it later once I played this event in its entirety.


And lastly, the Dylan/Emma event.
You may think that I’m joking and I’m quite surprised to say so myself but this was the highlight of the update for me (and even one of the best event for a while).

First it was short. I know it’s necessary for some events to have more renders but this one was perfectly passed for what he was trying to tell.

2nd, no unnecessary Dylan point of view. The event is told from Sophia perspective so when she leaves them alone, we don’t see what happens.(and we don’t need to).

3rd, Dylan act like the shy awkward teenager that he’s supposed to be and not like a weirdo that wants to fuck his mom(and aunt and sister) for no other reason that it’s an game with incest .

4th , Sophia give him advice related to his primary problem which was that he wasn’t even able to start a conversation with a girl (the sexual education should have come later).
Until now Sophia advices was making as much sense as if the 2 of them was working on a farm and Dylan complained that the cows refused to listen to him and Sophia response was to show him how to cook a steak.

5th, Dylan make progress by his own work and not because he’s a sort of a 2nd Mc that every milf and their daughters are now being irresistibly attracted to while he sit on his ass mostly doing nothing to get that sudden attention.

Alright. 2 last words.

The idea of a dlc for the side job is a good one but don’t expect him to wait until the end of the game to release it.

He has qualified the 2nd side job as one of the hottest and one of the highlight of the game. And how he couldn’t wait to start it (which is clearly apparent with how much he went overboard with this event)
So at best it would be delivered alongside the game for those who feel discomfort. But there would be no gain in terms of speed of updates.

The first time job has at least confirmed for me that whatever a character says they won’t, can’t, shouldn’t or wouldn’t do, it has a 99% chance to happen.
She wasn’t supposed to bath the old guys. Well...

That’s all for now. Thanks for reading until then.
 

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Sophia said earlier scene that she was incognito and nobody new her name did the kid slip interesting also nice view
I guess it's possible that L&P might have slipped up. Or it could be a subtle hint that she was nt as incognito as she thought she was.

Thanks - I had nt spotted this on my playthrough. This makes me even more convinced that not only did Aiden set them up for himself to be Ares, but had also set up his mates to be students. None of them are Aiden's gang members that we have met already.

I am still wondering if they are either another class at the same school (and thus Sophia might have seen them around at a distance but not taught them directly in her class) or they were an opposing soccer team or something like that. But I had that vibe that they know her even before that name slip.
 
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